CAMeLots - Dependencies

[RippleJet]

You've understood it all, ares416. Those stage 3 residentials will work well with the CAM

[brar]

Hey folks,

I got a question on these dependencies.  Ive downloaded the list from this post into a fresh plugins folder.  Ive installed everything but the med farms files cause i see they need some other dependencies so wanted to install all prop, textures and essentials first.  I have all the props, textures, and essentials installed and before adding anything else I wanted to check just these with the cleanitol program.  Everything was good except for bsc megapack vol1 list.  When i put this in cleanitol it pulls up a huge list of missing files.  does this sound right? Im downloading them but wanted to make sure before installing them. 

Reason being I thought the list was everything needed but this would add like 20 more to the list if I understand the cleanitol program correctly.

Any help would be appreciated.

[BarbyW]

Can you post the contents of the Cleanitol result file for the Megapack - I presume it is the texture pack? I suspect that as you have installed stuff into a fresh plugins that you do not have the files that were previously released and have now been combined into that pack. If that is the case you do not need to get them as Cleanitol would only remove them if you ran it again.
With regard to the BMD Med Style Farms, you only need to keep the fields from them if you do not want to get the farms dependencies. The fields are aa must as they are needed for the CAM farms.

[brar]

MISSING : bldgprop_vol1.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://simcity.ea.com/downloads/getfile_pri.php?filename=bldgprop_vol1.dat
MISSING : bldgprop_vol2.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://simcity.ea.com/downloads/getfile_pri.php?filename=bldgprop_vol2.dat
MISSING : BSC MEGA Props - KWKVol02.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=627
MISSING : BSC MEGA Props KWK Vol01.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=626
MISSING : SmalltownUSA - Collector's Edition.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=642
MISSING : CSX MEGA Props - Vol06.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=633
MISSING : BSC MEGA Props - JENX Vol02.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=629
MISSING : BSC MEGA Props - JENX Vol01.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=628
MISSING : BSC MEGA Props RT Vol03.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=585
MISSING : W2W_Support_Files.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=566
MISSING : BSC MEGA Props - CARCH Vol01.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=521
MISSING : BSC MEGA Props - CAL Vol01.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=469
MISSING : BSC MEGA Props - W2W vol01.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=465
MISSING : CSX MEGA Props - Vol04.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=462
MISSING : CSX MEGA Props - Vol03.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=461
MISSING : CSX MEGA Props - Vol02.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=460
MISSING : CSX MEGA Props - Vol01.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=459
MISSING : BSC MEGA Props - MJB Vol01.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=407
MISSING : BSCTexturePack JES Vol02.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=341
MISSING : BSC MEGA Props - RT WFK Vol01.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=286
MISSING : BSC MEGA Props - RT WFK N Vol01.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=285
MISSING : BSCBATProps MattB325 Vol01.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=281
MISSING : BSC BAT Props_JBSimio_Vol01.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=192
MISSING : Newman Inc Prop Pack Vol3.dat has not been found, you can download it : http://www.simpeg.com/dload.php?action=file&file_id=375
You seem to be missing some dependancies

Here is the ones it says im missing.  As i said it was a fresh install but i installed all the prop, textures and essential packs before running cleanitol.  And the exact file is "cleanitol BSC Mega Packs(1).txt"


I think i discovered the problem.  After searching through the zip files i couldnt find this specific cleanitol.txt file.  So i tried figuring out where i got it and how it got into my folder when i realized at one point in time i was searching through some post and someone had a link to a cleanitol file that would make sure i had all bsc files up to date and this is where it came from.  So I was wrong its not linked directly to the files in this post.  It came from here http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=190, which i got it late lastnight and not even sure why i grabbed it.  sorry about the confusion ive removed it from my list and now im not getting any errors in cleanitol.

[ares416]

Another dependency question...

As I was cleaning out my plugins, I found a file called "Ellington Tower Query.dat" which was located with other files for the Elllington Tower. I know I should delete the two .SC4Lot files (growable and ploppable) and keep the sc4Model file.

What should I do with the .dat file? I'm guessing this has something to do with what happens when you query this building so it shouldn't interfere with the CAM version of this lot unless the CAM version has a query file built in and then maybe they would conflict.

So should I delete it or keep it?

[brar]

Also BarbyW you said I dont need to keep the farms just the fields.  Is it possible for me to remove certain farms and keep the others without having a problem? or must i keep them all.  I'm building a city in a more northern region type setting and bananas and oranges wouldnt really be native fruit to the environment.  So i was thinking maybe i could take out certain types of fields and keep only the types i would want in the area.  But since I dont know how the files work I didnt know if could do it or not without a problem.

[BarbyW]

area416: The only thing you have to keep is the model file from any of those downloads unless you want to keep the original file in which case you would need the query.dat. The CAM Essentials contains all the queries for CAMeLots.
brar: I'm not sure what is wrong with the master Cleanitol file but it is more a check that you have packs. If you are sure you have them then dont worry.
If you remove any banana farms then you will be fine but don't remove any fields. I THINK that only banana farms use banana fields so by removing the farms the fields shouldn't grow. The fields on their own do nothing without the farms but you should never remove fields in case a farm uses them. If you do you can have farms growing without fields and/or more than one farm on a plot. With regard to the oranges, they will probably be used by any Fruit farm so you may need to remove any fruit farms too or you will just have to bulldoze any farms that grow with orange fields and hope a less tropical fruit grows. I'm sorry but this is how farms and fields work and without editing the farms in the Reader that is the only solution.

[brar]

Ok thanks BarbyW that shouldnt be a problem ill just remove the farms i dont want and leave the fields.  Ill see how it works out. 

[brar]

Ok I have another question hope im not being a pain.

I'm dealing with a complete fresh plugin folder and im only installing the cam items suggested on the camelots posts.  im working on the suggested starter packs on one of the post.  With these starter packs there there are a ton of other dependencies and models that are needed for the starter packs.  Ive been gathering these up and think im finished downloading anyways.  I was about to begin installing them and read through the posts to see what i needed out of these.  My understanding is the only file i need is the model file.  i havent went through them all yet but the first one i went to install does not contain a model file only sc4lot files, a couple jpgs, and the dat files.  From what i understand i dont need any of these for CAMelots.  The paticular file is NDEX telecommunication HQ.  its one of the files that is needed for no boxes in one of the starter packs.  how do i handle this beings it has no models?

[JoeST]

you may need the .dat file if there is no model

[brar]

I notice on some of the files there is a .dat file with [model] in the name and figured that is the one to use for the model in those ones but there is still  some that dont have model anywhere in them.  Some also in there readme's state that i need a couple files in my plugins folder and they cant be in subfolders for them to work right do i still need to have these even with using the CAMElots?

[JoeST]

Superstar's Citicbank Tower [Model]-0x5ad0e817_0x102a45d9_0xb0000.SC4Model
jes_HudsonGlass3-0x5ad0e817_0x12774cc5_0x30000.SC4Model

these two files are the only ones that cleanitol cant find, and both are there and i even installed the second one to the place that it gives you. im just wondering if there is a spelling mistake or something

Joe

[BarbyW]

brar:If there is no file with model in the name but there is a dat file as well as one or more SC4Lot files then keep the dat but not the lots. The other files mentioned in the various Readmes are not needed for the CAMeLots.
star.torturer: There appears to be a problem with the [ ] in a filename although that does not explain jestarr's model not being found. I'll try to recheck them later.

[JoeST]

I think i've found what's wrong with the jestarr mode. Here is the correct file name:

jes_HudsonGlass-0x5ad0e817_0xd2f86f1e_0x30000.SC4Model

and heres the correct file name for the other one

Superstar's Citicbank Tower [Model]-0x5ad0e817_0x1305ef0d_0x30000.SC4Model

and another quick question. i havent installed any other buildings exept the cam ones, do i need any of the lots that appear outside the cam sub folder's?

ive attached a copy of my amended version if that helps

[BarbyW]

and another quick question. i havent installed any other buildings exept the cam ones, do i need any of the lots that appear outside the cam sub folder's?

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. If you mean the lots that come with the models then no you don't need them.

[snorrelli]

I think i've found what's wrong with the jestarr mode. Here is the correct file name:

jes_HudsonGlass-0x5ad0e817_0xd2f86f1e_0x30000.SC4Model

and heres the correct file name for the other one

Superstar's Citicbank Tower [Model]-0x5ad0e817_0x1305ef0d_0x30000.SC4Model

and another quick question. i havent installed any other buildings exept the cam ones, do i need any of the lots that appear outside the cam sub folder's?

ive attached a copy of my amended version if that helps

Star.torturer - this issue was reported at the beginning of this thread, in these posts...

[perfectdark158]

do u have to download all the prop packs?

[RippleJet]

The prop packs mentioned in this thread are actually not required as such. If you miss some of them, your lots will have less decorations, but still be fully functional. However, since the prop packs mentioned in this thread are used in a lot of lots, not just CAMeLots, I would recommend downloading them, eventually.

In fact, you could also play the CAM completely without custom content. But in that case, you would have very little variation and only Maxis buildings.
You can also choose to skip the starter packs and only download those creator specific CAMeLots and buildings that are appearing and will appear on the LEX.

Downloading and installing all CAMeLots and their models at once, is actually like downloading all the best skyscrapers that have been batted over the past 3 years or so. It doesn't hurt when you're downloading 1 GB over 3 years, but downloading them all at once might feel frustrating at start... However, it is the easiest way to correct all modding errors you might have among your plugins, and it will be rewarding once you start playing again.

Btw, welcome to CAM and SC4Devotion, perfectdark158!

[perfectdark158]

thanks, ok right now my buildings look like packages so i need to downlod the prop packs

[RippleJet]

thanks, ok right now my buildings look like packages so i need to downlod the props

Yes, you do need all model/prop packs that are listed as dependencies with each package of CAMeLots available.
The easiest way to make sure you get them all is to run BSC Cleanitol™ with the included TXT file.
You can also find all models in the CAMeLots - Linking all available lots and bats thread.